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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://www.otherbs.com/2009/02/26/oh-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-21246</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 02:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? Smoked us? Well, love how you throw out your comment with no evidence either. Personally, I detected no logic or intelligence in Justin&#039;s arguments. For reasons I described.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Smoked us? Well, love how you throw out your comment with no evidence either. Personally, I detected no logic or intelligence in Justin&#8217;s arguments. For reasons I described.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.otherbs.com/2009/02/26/oh-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-21245</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was funny how Justin completely smoked all of you. You had no refutations of his arguments, and instead turned to ad homs. Typical &quot;rational&quot; skeptics. All bluster and no substance.

Pseudointellectuals such as yourselves would not last long against the Apologists at Theologyweb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was funny how Justin completely smoked all of you. You had no refutations of his arguments, and instead turned to ad homs. Typical &#8220;rational&#8221; skeptics. All bluster and no substance.</p>
<p>Pseudointellectuals such as yourselves would not last long against the Apologists at Theologyweb.</p>
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		<title>By: Josiah</title>
		<link>http://www.otherbs.com/2009/02/26/oh-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-1471</link>
		<dc:creator>Josiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only quote from Sir Richard Burton&#039;s poem The Kasidah:

...
When doctors differ who decides
amid the milliard-beaded throng?
Who save the madman dares to cry:
&quot;&#039;Tis I am right, you all are wrong?&quot;

&quot;You all are right, you all are wrong,&quot;
we hear the careless Soofi say,
&quot;For each believes his glimm&#039;ering lamp
to be the gorgeous light of day.&quot;

&quot;Thy faith why false, my faith why true?
&#039;tis all the work of Thine and Mine,
&quot;The fond and foolish love of self
that makes the Mine excel the Thine.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only quote from Sir Richard Burton&#8217;s poem The Kasidah:</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
When doctors differ who decides<br />
amid the milliard-beaded throng?<br />
Who save the madman dares to cry:<br />
&#8220;&#8216;Tis I am right, you all are wrong?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You all are right, you all are wrong,&#8221;<br />
we hear the careless Soofi say,<br />
&#8220;For each believes his glimm&#8217;ering lamp<br />
to be the gorgeous light of day.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Thy faith why false, my faith why true?<br />
&#8217;tis all the work of Thine and Mine,<br />
&#8220;The fond and foolish love of self<br />
that makes the Mine excel the Thine.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://www.otherbs.com/2009/02/26/oh-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-1463</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, you should definitely be here and your comments are appreciated. I tolerate Justin because I understand his mindset rather well—I was in fundamentalist Christian cult for 17 years, and know the thought process from the inside. So I have some sympathy and some hope for Justin, especially since he has shown occasional flashes of humor and intelligence. Also, I asked him at one point to not simply make baseless assertions, or he would be &#039;benched&#039; and, for the most part, he&#039;s respected that. I suppose he&#039;s still on probation.

Thanks for weighing in!

cheers,
Angus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you should definitely be here and your comments are appreciated. I tolerate Justin because I understand his mindset rather well—I was in fundamentalist Christian cult for 17 years, and know the thought process from the inside. So I have some sympathy and some hope for Justin, especially since he has shown occasional flashes of humor and intelligence. Also, I asked him at one point to not simply make baseless assertions, or he would be &#8216;benched&#8217; and, for the most part, he&#8217;s respected that. I suppose he&#8217;s still on probation.</p>
<p>Thanks for weighing in!</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Angus</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
		<link>http://www.otherbs.com/2009/02/26/oh-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-1460</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you put up with that little Justin twit? The only thing he adds to the discussion is tension, and I for one don&#039;t enjoy tension unless it&#039;s in a song or a poem. Just delete him, Angus. PLEASE! Nobody in their right mind wants to read his BS. You might attract the kind of comments you deserve if readers didn&#039;t have to wade through Justin&#039;s tripe. Your writing lifts me up; then I read Justin&#039;s comments and find myself feeling very sad. C&#039;mon, Brilliant One, you owe it to yourself and to your readers to make coming here a more palatable experience. You&#039;re the coach. Bench him! Or explain to me why you put up with him. Maybe it&#039;s just a locker room guy thing and I&#039;ll never get it. If that&#039;s the case, then I shouldn&#039;t be here in the first place and I apologize for intruding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you put up with that little Justin twit? The only thing he adds to the discussion is tension, and I for one don&#8217;t enjoy tension unless it&#8217;s in a song or a poem. Just delete him, Angus. PLEASE! Nobody in their right mind wants to read his BS. You might attract the kind of comments you deserve if readers didn&#8217;t have to wade through Justin&#8217;s tripe. Your writing lifts me up; then I read Justin&#8217;s comments and find myself feeling very sad. C&#8217;mon, Brilliant One, you owe it to yourself and to your readers to make coming here a more palatable experience. You&#8217;re the coach. Bench him! Or explain to me why you put up with him. Maybe it&#8217;s just a locker room guy thing and I&#8217;ll never get it. If that&#8217;s the case, then I shouldn&#8217;t be here in the first place and I apologize for intruding.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.otherbs.com/2009/02/26/oh-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-628</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 00:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, no argument about the Christian part.

&quot;Atheist probably doesn’t capture my beleif system.&quot;
Then why claim a &quot;version&quot; of atheism?

&quot;I suppose this is my version of atheism: I believe in the divine, but I believe that as soon as humans start defining it, or approaches to it, they inevitably go astray.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no argument about the Christian part.</p>
<p>&#8220;Atheist probably doesn’t capture my beleif system.&#8221;<br />
Then why claim a &#8220;version&#8221; of atheism?</p>
<p>&#8220;I suppose this is my version of atheism: I believe in the divine, but I believe that as soon as humans start defining it, or approaches to it, they inevitably go astray.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://www.otherbs.com/2009/02/26/oh-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 00:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atheist probably doesn&#039;t capture my beleif system. Christian certainly doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atheist probably doesn&#8217;t capture my beleif system. Christian certainly doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.otherbs.com/2009/02/26/oh-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for you, it would seem that you do acknowledge  some &quot;Higher&quot; being exists.  You argue that it cannot possibly be the God of Christianity, and instead opt for a pantheistic god.  That makes you a unique atheist.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for you, it would seem that you do acknowledge  some &#8220;Higher&#8221; being exists.  You argue that it cannot possibly be the God of Christianity, and instead opt for a pantheistic god.  That makes you a unique atheist.  <img src='http://www.otherbs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://www.otherbs.com/2009/02/26/oh-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;God has put in you innate, intuitive knowledge that He exists.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

And when I tell you that is not the case, at least for me… what? I&#039;m a liar, because I tell you I don&#039;t feel what you feel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;God has put in you innate, intuitive knowledge that He exists.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>And when I tell you that is not the case, at least for me… what? I&#8217;m a liar, because I tell you I don&#8217;t feel what you feel?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.otherbs.com/2009/02/26/oh-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim wrote: &quot;Justin wrote “Admit that FSM does not really exist but is instead just a poorly conceived debating tactic that is insufficient in disproving the existence of a Higher Power beyond ourselves…”

This is a common tactic used by Believers of Weird Things.&quot;

wrong... I never asked Angus to prove that FSM doesn&#039;t exist, and I told him to either admit it or

&quot;If you truly believe in FSM, then you have to:

(1) recant atheism.
(2) affirm that absolute, objective truth exists.
(3) recant rationalism and/or empiricism
(4) submit to the gospel of FSM as your authority.&quot;

Which he won&#039;t, because he doesn&#039;t.

Your statement: it is &quot;impossible to disprove the existence of an imaginary thing.&quot;

Wrong.  God has put in you innate, intuitive knowledge that He exists.  Denial of God does not mean that He ceases to exist, anymore than when a child closes his/her eyes and says &quot;I can&#039;t hear you,&quot; means the parent does not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim wrote: &#8220;Justin wrote “Admit that FSM does not really exist but is instead just a poorly conceived debating tactic that is insufficient in disproving the existence of a Higher Power beyond ourselves…”</p>
<p>This is a common tactic used by Believers of Weird Things.&#8221;</p>
<p>wrong&#8230; I never asked Angus to prove that FSM doesn&#8217;t exist, and I told him to either admit it or</p>
<p>&#8220;If you truly believe in FSM, then you have to:</p>
<p>(1) recant atheism.<br />
(2) affirm that absolute, objective truth exists.<br />
(3) recant rationalism and/or empiricism<br />
(4) submit to the gospel of FSM as your authority.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which he won&#8217;t, because he doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Your statement: it is &#8220;impossible to disprove the existence of an imaginary thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong.  God has put in you innate, intuitive knowledge that He exists.  Denial of God does not mean that He ceases to exist, anymore than when a child closes his/her eyes and says &#8220;I can&#8217;t hear you,&#8221; means the parent does not exist.</p>
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